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Thread: Our summer toys in action

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    faspit is offline Frank Speer
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    Default Our summer toys in action

    The past 3 years we have been racing my Son's 2006 Pontiac GTO with MCSCC here in Northern Illinois. The videos are from last year and this year. There is one of him blowing up the last 6.0 Ltr Engine, it was an expensive one, New block, "I" beam Rods, new Pistons, new rotating assembly, ported and polished heads all the good stuff to last for ever. Engine made about 625 HP. We kept the HP low because the GTO's cannot fit wide rubber under it so too much HP is a waste on this chassis. We also upped our anti by throwing a 390 gear in the rear end, was a 342 and what a difference it made. The car also has a brand new Tremic 6-speed that was modified to fit the GTO, There is no factory or standard Tremic trans made for that era car, that includes the Camaro as well.

    We raced just two tracks, neither is in a Sim, go figure. We race Blackhawk Farms in So. Beloit, IL, it is 1.95 mi 7 turn paved road race track for carts, sports cars, motorcycles. We race here with SCCA and Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs. We also race at The Milwaukee Mile Road Course, it has the track on the infield and 3/4 of the oval(backward).

    We are in the middle of putting a 5.3 engine in the GTO and selling it so he can buy a real race car that we can run wheel to wheel. We are looking for a turn key TransAm type car, we are looking at some older NASCAR trucks and cards that were road race built. We are also looking for a cheap enclosed race car trailer, 18-24'. If you know of any thing like this let me know please.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRyh70kOjKE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFG_0s92tmM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTlamzXyaJI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsTeKmmFrk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1EiJt3i17U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rddoL8VxIkA

    Hope you enjoy these.

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    AWESOME!! I love GTOs and it sounds like you had this one turned into a real beast. To help, trailer? Try here (Transporters Complete Listing). As far as the Trans Am type-car, how about an actual one through here (http://race-cars.com/carsales/transam.htm)? Want NASCAR? Try here: (NASCAR Listings). More NASCAR? Here's another source (Gene Felton Restorations).
    Last edited by Marc Cohn; 10-28-2017 at 11:43 PM.
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    Awesome stuff Frank. I'm jealous. I live in Rockford and have been to Blackhawk Farms to watch some Vintage races.
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    faspit is offline Frank Speer
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    Great Ed, We have to hook up. The GTO is up for sale, that great sound is thru a complete Cooks Headers and exhaust system and a $25000 engine that lives no more, put a window in the side of that block, now has a 5.3 ltr with ls2 cam in it, still sounds great but it is now 400 hp not 600.
    We found out why the Corvettes run a dry sump oil system, due to the 1:1 oil pump design in the newer style engines they cause cavatation(that is when the pump starts pumping air into the oil and then pumps foam) sending foam into the crank and rod bearings and destroying the engine. We even use an Oil Accumulator that only postponed the engine fatality. So the decision was made to sell the street car and put the engine money and the street car money into what my son really wants to do, wheel to wheel and as safe as we can. The speeds and the tracks we run he was thinking a sports car but the more we look the more we see the older NASCAR stuff coming up for sale as well as older Trans Am and the American Truck series Trucks(these are short track oval and road race trucks based on the original Craftsman Truck Series, remember their first two years was mostly road races) that are neutral chassis, only the upper control arms and their mounting locations are allowed to be off balanced(camber) for the ovals. Easy to convert to road race, just equal upper control arms and mounts.(these are from $5K - $20K depending on if its just a truck or if it is a turn key race operation with a trailer) (NASCAR stuff is about the same pricing but that is for a roller to a turn key car no spares normally)
    We will post when we get our new ride!
    All the Midwestern races at Blackhawk Farms are free to watch, that is from the pits and go talk to the drivers, everyone loves bragging about their toys. They also have a hands on indoor Drivers School every March, we learn inside then take our street cars on the track, they call it "Station Wagon" runs, it is to show people the correct "line" at the track the school is held at. They tell us its a 45 mph speed limit, lol My son and my wife have over heated tires and brakes at these station wagon runs.

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    faspit is offline Frank Speer
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    Well to update our progress, another engine is going into the GTO this weekend, needed some parts for the swap. Didn't hurt last engine too bad looks to be the cam bearings went sour, a common issue with the GM LS type engines.
    We did go look at an older ARCA car, it was still setup for the short track ovals, torn up left front sheet metal from its last outing, and missing too many parts for the price, it is a proven winner tho. Still were looking, been looking at some of the USST Super Trucks, very similar to the NASCAR Trucks. Also found some old Cup cars for sale so were looking at those as well. We will be at the PRI Show in Indy next week, my son is working at the Kitamura CNC Machine Booth and I will be there and at the Flatout Gaskets Booth as well as walking around.
    PRI is to Racing that SEMA is to Hotrods. Its products and suppliers for the Race Car business.
    We will be actively searching for a car there.

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    I'd like to try that Drivers School in March. I've been looking for a chance to get my Miata on the track, but always seem to have something else going on when they have their track days at Blackhawk.
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    faspit is offline Frank Speer
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    Well here is the GTO ad. Got engine in and running, going to detail shop this week while were at PRI.

    https://www.racingjunk.com/Productio...tiac-GTO-.html

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