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Thread: Stormin' Norman's MNRL Gurney Eagle - Season 5, Race 3 Info (Oct. 10th)

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    Default Stormin' Norman's MNRL Gurney Eagle - Season 5, Race 3 Info (Oct. 10th)

    Welcome Drivers:

    Here are details for the 1966 Gurney Eagle Tribute Series, Season 5 Race 3. Using The 1966 Gurney Eagle Tribute mod for rFactor 1.


    The race is at Monaco '79 Tuesday, October 10th, Qualifying at 9 PM EDT
    (full schedule below)

    Location: Monaco - Length: 2.058 miles / 3.312 km


    The Monaco Grand Prix is the jewel of the crown of the Formula One schedule, an anachronistic throwback in the modern safety-conscious era which is allowed to continue thanks to the glitz and glamour of both the surroundings and the beautiful people who make it an annual fixture on their social calendars.
    Racing has been held on the streets of the principality, around the harbour area of Monte Carlo, since 1929. It was the brainchild of wealthy cigarette manufacturer and Monaco resident Anthony Noghés, who was the General Commissioner of the newly renamed Automobile Club de Monaco (it had previously been a cycling club). Stung by the ACM being refused admission to the international body that represented automotive clubs around the world - on the grounds that it did not hold an event within the principality - Noghés began his planning.
    He plotted out a course which went from the Boulevard Albert I, uphill to Casino Square, then back down to Monte Carlo station, turning right at Portier onto the harbour front, emerging through the tunnel on Quai des Etats-Unis, before a left turn onto Quai Albert I, heading towards the gasometer and finally turning back to the starting point.
    The proposed course drew favourable comment and support from local racing ace Louis Chiron and, encouraged, Noghés took his plans to Prince Louis II, who immediately saw the advantages it could bring in boosting Monaco's profile across the world, drawing in rich tourists from across the continent in what would otherwise be the off-season. The date of the first Grand Prix was thus set for 14 April 1929. After 100 laps and almost four hours of racing, the Englishman William Grover Williams (racing under the somewhat transparent pseudonym "Williams") ran out the winner in a Bugatti 35B. Ironically, local hero Chiron was unable to take part, as he was across the ocean racing in the Indianapolis 500.
    It was a case of mission accomplished; the race was hailed a success and the ACM got its coveted admission to the automobile federation.
    After further successful events in 1930 and '31, the first changes to the circuit came in time for the 1932 race, held as the season opener for the European Grand Prix season. The tram tracks which had criss-crossed parts of the circuit were torn up and a new, smoother surface laid in their place. The race's popularity grew too - by the mid-30s, up to 100,000 spectators were in regular attendance. The chicane was slightly modified – and slowed – in 1935, with events continuing until the outbreak of war in 1939 forced the cancellation of all racing.
    When peace returned, it was Anthony Noghés who once again was the event's champion, once again instrumental in seeing its revival in 1948. There was no race in 1949, due to the death of Price Louis II, but the 1950 event was included as round two of the new Formula One World Championship, being won by Juan Manuel Fangio. The following year, the race was cancelled due to budgetary concerns and because rules for newer faster cars had not yet been drafted.
    The 1952 Grand Prix was run with sports cars, as the international regulations had still not yet been finalised. Minor revisions were made to Ste Dévote greeted the drivers but the meeting was overshadowed by tragedy when Luigi Fagioli crashed his Lancia in the tunnel during qualifying, succumbing to his injuries 18 days later.
    In 1953 and 1954, the Grand Prix was not held , but from 1955 it regained its place in the World Championship, continuing a run which has been unbroken to the present day. From that event onwards, the start moved next to the waterfront, a few hundred meters before the Gasometer corner. Famously, Alberto Ascari plunged into the harbour when he lost control at the chicane; fortunately race organisers had had the foresight to employ a team of patroling frogmen who soon fished the Italian from the water and later craned his sodden Lancia back onto dry land. The following year the chicane was narrowed to slow the cars, and was further modified in 1957 and 1962.
    The start line moved back alongside the pits in 1963, with a new staggered two-by-two grid formation introduced to try and reduce the chances of first corner collisions. Following the fatal crash of Lorenzo Bandini at the chicane in 1967, it was moved 100 meters closer to Tabac, slowing the course by around a second per lap.
    For the 1969 event, Armco barriers were placed at specific points for the first time in the circuit's history, with further sections added in the following years. The effect was to increase overall safety but also to narrow the circuit, creating a tunnel like atmosphere. By 1972, the demands of the drivers for further increases in safety and a requirement for the pits to have a permanent barrier separating them for the track led to their temporary repositioning. With no room on the start/finish street for a separate lane, a traffic island to the left of the circuit on Quai des Etast-Unis ws employed. Entry to the pits was via the old chicane – a new chicane was inserted just before tabac to slow the cars.
    More permanent changes came in 1973. Gone was the old station and tunnel – to be replaced by a modern hotel complex, while land reclaimed from the sea created a circuit extension around a new outdoor swimming pool. A new narrow curve around the Rascasse restaurant replaced the gasometer curve, while the additional space regained from the sea allowed for a permanent pit lane for the first time alongside the start/finish straight.
    In 1976, alterations were made at Rascasse and Ste Dévote to slow the cars, while in 1986 the left-right chicane which had increasingly been taken at alarming speed was replaced with a new chicane, closer to the tunnel exit. This again included land reclaimed from the harbour, giving the benefit of space for a small area of run-off. It slowed the cars considerably, though a bump on entry ensured this was still a tricky section of track.
    In 1997, the original S-bend around the swimming pool was redesigned, with the barriers moved further back. The new section was named 'Virage Louis Chiron' in honour of the 1931 GP victor and long-time clerk of the course.
    The next phase of new work only affected the southern side of the port. Some 5,000 square metres of land were reclaimed from the sea. The circuit between the second part of the swimming pool section and La Rascasse was moved 10 metres and completely redesigned for the 2003 race. The S-bends at the exit of the swimming pool section were tightened into a slower right-left chicane. The following year saw the opening of a new, much wider pit lane with by building over the old track between the swimming pool and La Rascasse. This provided 250 square metres of extra pits space for the teams – though they still remain amongst the most cramped on the F1 calendar!
    Small changes were made to the Tabac corner for 2015, where the track was moved 2.5 metres closer to the harbour, forcing a slightly earlier turn in. The realignment continues up to the Swimming Pool complex, slightly changing the entry apex to this section. The changes come in the wake of the 2013 crash involving Pastor Maldonada and Max Chilton, in which a section of TecPro barrier was dislodged, blocking the track and forcing the race to be stopped.
    A new innovation for 2015 was the debut of the FIA Formula E Championship on a shortened version of the Grand Prix course. Instead of heading up the hill after Sainte Devote, the electric racers turn sharp right along Avenue J.F. Kennedy, heading back towards the Nouvelle Chicane, which effectively becomes a squared-off hairpin. The remainder of the lap is the same as the Grand Prix course. The ePrix takes place two weeks before the Formula One circus rolls into town for its traditional event.
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    ~ In your CIRCUIT list, the track is:
    " GPC79tracks, #07_ Monaco "
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    ~ Race length is 45 minutes.
    ~ Race Pit Speed 62mph/99kph
    ~ Do not use off-course areas to gain an advantage.
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    Race Day and Time:
    Tuesday, October 10th,
    Server Name: MNRL CMSRACING.COM
    Qualifying at 9 PM EDT (15 minutes)
    Warmup, 5 minutes,
    Race Start: Standing
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    The 1966 Gurney Eagle Tribute Series schedule is as follows:

    August 29 - (Official Practice Race) Watkins Glen
    September 12 - Kyalami
    September 26 - Silverstone
    October 10 - Monaco
    October 24 - Nordschleife
    November 14 - Zandvoort
    December 5 - Interlagos

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    Relevant track downloads for Gurney Eagles Tribute Series
    Watkins Glen ,Kyalami, Silverstone, Monaco, Zandvoort, Interlagos
    Nordschleife
    *Watkins Glen, Kyalami, Silverstone, Monaco, Zandvoort, and Interlagos are part of the GP79 track pack. If you already have this track pack installed please delete and install this new one. It has been updated and your old GP79 tracks won't work. Current version is 2.6.
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    As usual, the lift/blip is in effect. Repetitive speedshifting
    will result in motor damage and failure.
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    (Att: All Drivers!) !PLEASE GO HERE TO PICK A CAR! Drivers interested in registering for this series, please visit the car selection threads.
    Gurney Eagle Car Selection Thread.
    *Parts of the Gurney Eagle thread are time sensitive. Drivers who choose make their choices before Sunday, September 3rd, will be able to customize paint scheme as well as number and a few other things. Further details and instructions in Eagle car selection thread.
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    WOOHOOO!!! As if this track isn't challenging enough, I have a dare for all of the other MNRL drivers. I'm going to be using H-Pattern and heel-toeing using the clutch the whole event. While this may seem daunting considering the 50-60 gear changes per lap (probably 30 lap race so 1,500 shifts at least), I know it is absolutely doable. Who has the guts to join me in this endeavor? Check out this video from an online racing school in a McLaren MP4/4 - this is probably in some ways harder than the Eagle considering that it has triple the power which means a ton more power-oversteer.
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    looking like I will miss this one, have to see Doctor about my back problems. Not like this track could hurt my back at all, lol. I love this track but not with traffic. Still not a street track fan. Good luck all. I will still practice it so hope to see some of you on the server.
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    Unfortunately I will have to stay out of the races on Tuesday nights, a musical group has closed a pack of 4 rehearsals and all conflict with race schedules. Happy on the one hand, because money is always welcome, on the other, very sad, especially for losing the Eagle's in Monaco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Cohn View Post
    WOOHOOO!!! As if this track isn't challenging enough, I have a dare for all of the other MNRL drivers. I'm going to be using H-Pattern and heel-toeing using the clutch the whole event. While this may seem daunting considering the 50-60 gear changes per lap (probably 30 lap race so 1,500 shifts at least), I know it is absolutely doable. Who has the guts to join me in this endeavor? Check out this video from an online racing school in a McLaren MP4/4 - this is probably in some ways harder than the Eagle considering that it has triple the power which means a ton more power-oversteer.
    Nice video Marc. Knock yourself out with the skills challenge. I don't have an "H" pattern shifter and I am already plenty challenged by the 1979 version of Monaco we are running. So I will just stick to trying to keep the car intact for this event. If you are accomplished with heal and toe, it may come in handy at this event. With little to no run off in most corners and no fenders or wings to protect the wheels and suspension, braking and turn in points are absolutely critical here! Stay alert, whatever you do.

    For a peek at the real Gurney Eagle at modern day Monaco (at least the Coventry Climax powered version), check out the video below from the 2014 Historics race at Monaco. Although the layout has not changed much since 1979, it appears the 2014 real life version has even more room to race. Especially in the tunnel (more gradual turn) and most of the turns near the waterfront.

    1966 Coventry Eagle at 2014 Monaco Historics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfeiN22uQno

    Bigger picture of that 2014 Monaco Historic Races (F1 cars start around the 1 hour mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3CEOSm6ch0
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    There is no comparison, in terms of raw adrenaline producing footage, to a master at work.
    This is one of my favorites and something I can watch over and over again. Each and every time the adrenaline surges through my body. No other footage I've ever viewed brings about such rushes of chemicals in my mind. Intense would be an understatement. This IS the edge!




    On a side note to this just because it's cool, awesome footage....I actually find the Eagle more difficult to drive (at a decent pace) than something like an 88 F1 car. Lots of aero downforce on the 88s. Set up properly they are just about as planted as a car can be, too much so even, at times. The Eagle has none of that fancy stuff, just raw mechanical grip (or lack thereof)....and while the 88s can have a lot of power on oversteer, I struggle with it more in the Eagle than I do a more modern F1 car.
    With the more modern F1 cars you get some leeway because of all the downforce...not so much with the Eagles and small mistakes (especially here where small mistakes often equal big damages) are much harder to recover from, in my opinion.

    I find both equally entertaining and challenging in their own right. The driving style for each is very different in many ways so there are skills to be developed for and by both cars.

    Keeping the car clean and off the walls is goal one. Goal two is just to make it to the finish.
    I do a lot of long (full length) races, just about every weekend. Been doing that for nearly a year now. You'd imagine I'd built quite the bit of stamina for long races over that course of time, and you'd be right. However, in testing I've found that around 30 minutes into really pushing around this track, I'm wearing out...my arms are hurting, shoulders aching, etc. It will be a struggle and will be interesting to watch as those who push too hard early on potentially fall off in the latter stages of the race.
    While not "long" per say, 45 minutes at Monaco in such a car as this Eagle is no joke either. Be forewarned and experiment to see where your own personal "limits" are in this regard.

    Can't wait!
    See you guys there...

    ETA: "Formula 1 Management" says you cannot watch the video here. LOL...go figure. Hop over to youtube via the video link to check it out.
    (P.S. What the heck is with F1 management and this locked tight footage garbage? Jeez, you'd think they'd WANT people to see this. You know, to potentially draw in new fans. Since they've nearly sanitized the racing out of the "racing" over time, you'd think they'd scatter this footage far and wide to gain new audience. Perhaps they're afraid if we all get a taste of what F1 used to be, the common fan will realize just how sanitized it has become and popularity will wane? I don't know. Just really weird how they have these "management" types all around the net like trolls putting the copyright and ban hammer on anything and everything F1 if it isn't sponsored by them. I cannot think of another series that does this sort of thing, perhaps I am wrong.)

    Anyways....lol
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    Hello everyone! I am hoping to get to drive with yall tomorrow. But...I am getting a terrain.tdf mismatch when i join the server. Any solutions?
    EDIT: Nevermind, problem solved. Had to reach to the depth of old rFactor installs I had lying around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darien Bailey View Post
    Hello everyone! I am hoping to get to drive with yall tomorrow. But...I am getting a terrain.tdf mismatch when i join the server. Any solutions?
    EDIT: Nevermind, problem solved. Had to reach to the depth of old rFactor installs I had lying around.
    Terrain.tdf fix
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    Edit:

    All in working order now.
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    Jayson,

    This append to me a few years ago... F1 management...
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    In 2014, the F1 championship was really awesome... been down from there ever since. I use to put up some of the awesome stuff that came out from Sky.
    These clips and this Playlist are not public, please don't post it anywhere.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...gBZMit_nx4KUNH
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