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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron page View Post
    Joe, if those are "Chinese 5 colors" they will indeed do nicely. It only takes two of those to make a BIG pot of chili!

    A Carolina Reaper and an Orange Habanero
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron page View Post
    Congrats to Jason on the race win, and to Brette for the championship. Also congrats to Bruno on the seniors' championship. (btw, Bruno, no contest there, sir -- I could only attempt to keep you honest!)

    Joe, concerning the dog chewing, I have two solutions to that problem: one, get an older dog or, two, make a mixture of cayenne pepper and Murphy's oil soap, and smear lightly on the wires -- I guarantee you won't have to repair those wires more than one more time! grin

    As far as my race goes, I was very disappointed that Tony appeared to not be making the race, as we were exactly tied in points in the overall. Since I didn't want to win the spot by one point awarded just for showing up, I resolved to complete the race, and hence preferred to start from the back. With maybe five seconds left in warmup Tony comes online --alright, I'm thinking, we get to race for it! But even without qualifying, when the race started he was gridded higher than I was -- rrrrrrrrr. At the green, Peter got a lousy start, which bottled Jerry up behind him, but since Joe was stuck in the pits I had plenty of room to swing outside and, rather than press the issue, let them have the spots back (which also helped me miss the debris of the Bruno/Christopher entanglement). I managed to pass Tony when he visited the green early on, and after that it was a matter of just trying to make fewer mistakes than he did in a mod I'm not comfortable in. I managed to do so, although just barely, until, with two whole laps to go, I was called into the pits. No way am I going to pit! So I saved fuel, and saved some more, and just barely made it to the checkers. (I've got to get a handle on how this sim calculates fuel mileage!). End result, I beat Tony by exactly one point. But that sure beat getting the spot by default. Fun racing you all season, Tony!
    Somehow I forgot we had a race until my wife reminded me and I got online just in time for the start, had about 30 secs to select the setup I liked for the race and off we go! Not sure why I landed in P7 at the start, maybe from some practice time during the week. So I was discombobulated from the start, my chair was not quite right, wheel a little loose, too much light in the room, etc., etc., etc., none of which compares to having wires chewed or pets under the pedals!

    Aaron, glad you got the point "honestly" I just want to agree with you that we had fun all season and I'll add my congrats to Jason, Brette and Bruno for their great results.
    This was a fun season and I learned a lot; thanks to all of you for your generous help and patience and good humor on TeamSpeak.
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    I had completely forgotten about this until I saw Bruno at Laguna Seca earlier tonight.

    Monza: The big problem there, Bruno, is that you went off the track onto the apron inside trying to pass me. That's clearly against the MNRL rules, but it's also a clear example of WHY the "White Sidelines" rule is in place. Ronnie Peterson died when too many cars tried to funnel into the first chicane--at Monza--going four, five...six wide and way over the white sidelines.

    I'm not accusing you, please understand, of flaunting the rule about going off track, because it's my strong suspicion you didn't realize you were doing it--you have to be my age to remember details like these about Peterson (and I have the idea you are younger?). But in any case you DID go all four wheels wide and outside of the white track sidelines...and if you had realized it, I would have expected you to slam the brakes and hope to funnel back in behind me. Unfortunately you tried to come back "onto" the track through my side-pod, and I ended up with no left wheel or suspension.

    Again...I wasn't much put off by it--I assume you just didn't know about the white lines, or the history of Monza, either one. Stuff happens...it did...and I exited the game. I know it wasn't personal.

    BUT...there are lessons to be learned from it, and I hope you will. Two wheels off and over the white line? Fair and kosher. Four wheels off? No. Then you you need to go to the back of the pack...unless some kind soul lets you climb back into the stream of cars ahead of him.

    If you question me about this, let me point out THIS rule, re: The formation lap: If you spin or go off, you rejoin at the back of the pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Snow View Post
    I had completely forgotten about this until I saw Bruno at Laguna Seca earlier tonight.

    Monza: The big problem there, Bruno, is that you went off the track onto the apron inside trying to pass me. That's clearly against the MNRL rules, but it's also a clear example of WHY the "White Sidelines" rule is in place. Ronnie Peterson died when too many cars tried to funnel into the first chicane--at Monza--going four, five...six wide and way over the white sidelines.

    I'm not accusing you, please understand, of flaunting the rule about going off track, because it's my strong suspicion you didn't realize you were doing it--you have to be my age to remember details like these about Peterson (and I have the idea you are younger?). But in any case you DID go all four wheels wide and outside of the white track sidelines...and if you had realized it, I would have expected you to slam the brakes and hope to funnel back in behind me. Unfortunately you tried to come back "onto" the track through my side-pod, and I ended up with no left wheel or suspension.

    Again...I wasn't much put off by it--I assume you just didn't know about the white lines, or the history of Monza, either one. Stuff happens...it did...and I exited the game. I know it wasn't personal.

    BUT...there are lessons to be learned from it, and I hope you will. Two wheels off and over the white line? Fair and kosher. Four wheels off? No. Then you you need to go to the back of the pack...unless some kind soul lets you climb back into the stream of cars ahead of him.

    If you question me about this, let me point out THIS rule, re: The formation lap: If you spin or go off, you rejoin at the back of the pack.

    Once again, I apologize Christopher. Although I'm already 59, the speed flame still burns strong and at the start, you started very slowly and involuntarily I went to the right side without realizing that I was passing the limits of the track (At that moment the Peterson accident passed away from the my memory) I thought I had completely passed your car and as I saw the track narrowing in the front I moved to the left picking up the front of your car. I take the error that was ugly and worthy of punishment.
    You are correct in twisting my ear, full of reason and with every right to do so. the mistake was all mine and it was involuntary, because everyone who knows me and has run with me knows well that I am not a dirty and often benevolent pilot when I dispute positions. There are no justifications for my attitude. I'm ashamed to have destroyed your run.
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    No worries, Bruno and as I said, I had forgotten it at first anyway. I certainly won't be holding any grudges over it, and I hope you aren't losing sleep in much the same way.

    All I could ever ask it that you remember it for the future, and I'm sure you will. So it's done, over and done, and we all move onto the next race.

    BTW, I'm sure you did just forget Peterson--I was driving his very JPS team livery (except that I was in the Ickx car) and didn't think of it either until I saw you out on my right side there. Only then did it come roaring back...or maybe I just had my earphones turned up too high...lol!

    BTW, I'm only a kid, it turns out, at age 58. So you've got age and wisdom going for you after all.
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