Results 1 to 2 of 2
Like Tree24Likes
  • 4 Post By Jason Whited
  • 7 Post By Jason Whited

Thread: Cordoba Penalties and Protest Decision (ATT: ALL PORSCHE DRIVERS!)

  1. #1
    Jason Whited's Avatar
    Jason Whited is offline Senior Community Leader
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Soutwest Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,451

    Default Cordoba Penalties and Protest Decision (ATT: ALL PORSCHE DRIVERS!)

    Race Review

    Formation Lap


    - D. Bailey, very slow off the line (10 sec), causing multiple cars to take evasive action, causes accordion behind with slight contact Lalonde on Overton. Warning for Car Control
    - F. Speer, very slow off the line (3 sec), then stopped for 8 seconds causing other cars to take evasive action. Correctly waits for field to clear and then rejoins. Warning for Car Control.
    - F. Speer pulled off the track to let the field go by after his messed up start which is what he should have done. No Caution/Penalty.
    - G Lalonde hit the back of M Overton. Overton and cars ahead stopped behind D Bailey who wasn't moving. The two cars in front of Lalonde stopped without hitting the cars ahead. Warning For Car Control.
    - J Mackay slow off the line (3 sec). Caution For Car Control.
    - M Overton slow off the line (3 sec). Caution For Car Control.
    - C Bartrum slow off the line (3 sec). Caution For Car Control.
    - J Hamilton slow off the line (3 sec) after first starting in reverse. Caution for car control.
    - Tyler Alan, seven incidents of tire warming during parade lap. Warning for Tire Warming.
    - Tyler Alan, followed too close behind P. Holm and bumped him three times (3.31, 3:35,3:50). NQ for multiple avoidable contacts.
    - F Speer 4 wheels off (3:44). Caution for car control.
    - D Turcotte, lagging too far behind at the green flag. Caution To Stay In Formation.
    - J MacKay, lagging too far behind at the green flag. Caution To Stay In Formation.

    OZ

    - G. Lalonde, contact with M. Overton (4:03), Racing Incident
    - B. Brooks, 4 wheels off, safe reentry (4:09), Caution for car control
    - A. Dos Santos, 4 wheels off, safe reentry (4:10), Caution for car control
    - D. Bailey, 4 wheels off, safe reentry (4:12), Caution for car control
    - T Nasella clips L Almeida going through corner (4:11). Nasella gave a car width on the inside, but Almeida bounced off berm toward him. Racing Incident.

    Formation Lap, Start and OZ Penalties Summary

    - D. Bailey - Warning.
    - F. Speer - Warning.
    - G. lalonde - Warning.
    - Tyler Alan - NQDT (warning + NQ) See protest penalty result as final.

    Notes

    6 Stewards involved in this review process. Below are comments from 3 of them:

    A- Tyler Alan was in a car, already picked by another driver. He is also not registered to this series yet!
    B- The parade lap was extremely sloppy. Even though two cars caused problems off the line there was plenty of time to get back into a good formation. Drivers didnít close up or followed too close making it disorderly. Next race we need to reinforce how a parade lap should be run.
    C- CMS rules stipulates:
    ~PLEASE MAINTAIN A 2 TO 3 CAR LENGTH GAP TO THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU. ESPECIALLY AT THE END OF THE FORMATION LAP BEFORE WE GET TO THE GREEN STARTING ZONE.
    ~BRAKE WARMING IS ALLOWED BUT PLEASE DO SO WHILE MAINTAINING YOUR GAP AS TO NOT CAUSE STACK BRAKING OF THE CARS BEHIND YOU.
    ~NO TIRE WARMING.


    Cordoba Protest 1

    Due to increasing number of formation lap, start, OZ and beyond OZ incidents that Tyler Alan got involved over the last few seasons, and also big concerns raised by a driver, one of the admins and 3 different stewards on his driving style and incidents in this Cordoba race, RRC (Race Review Cmte) started a protest
    process on Tyler Alan that is brought up by one steward (who is excluded from protest review process). Below are beyond OZ incidents that were filed against Tyler:

    6:43 - Racing incident.

    13:36 - Bump-pass T. Mountjoy. Although it was not a "deliberate" bump-pass, the end result was the same, as Tyler did not wait for Tom to give position back. NQDT.

    21:35 - Unsafe reentry causing a collusion w/ J. Hamilton. Possible body and suspension damage to Hamilton's car. NQSG.

    26:46 - Went wide at T1 exit as J. Mac Kay also did two car lengths in front of him. But Tyler did not show any sign of braking or attempting to slow down to prevent contact as he was closing on Mac Kay. He rammed Mac Kay from behind causing him to spin out of track and losing 3 positions, with body damage. NQS&H10.

    43:44 - Unsafe reentry forcing a contact between S. Beck (lap traffic) and J. Whited (lapping). NQSG.

    43:57 - Bumped S. Beck on front straight, this was completely avoidable. Severe Warning for lack of respect to other driver's track position.

    Penalties Summary

    NQDT
    NQSG x2
    NQS&H10

    Severe Warning

    Final: Protest upheld on 5 out of 6 accounts.

    Additional notes:
    We have reviewed Tyler Alan's race also, mostly between L10 and L32 (when he quit). One steward's report summed it all:

    "SUMMARY OF T ALANíS OFF-TRACK INCIDENTS :
    Tyler Alan ran off track 30 times in the 22 laps I checked. He ran off track in nearly every one of the 22 laps I checked. He ran a total of 32 laps.

    In the vast majority of his off-track excursions he made unsafe re-entries. Most times, instead of blending into the track from the side, he went for the center of the track. If he was looking at the car on-track position display going for the middle of the track would be OK. Since he had numerous re-entries where he got unsafely in the way of other cars causing incidents, and he did so by not carefully blending in,
    CONCLUSION:
    He clearly was not in control of his car for two-thirds of the race. He ran off-track way more than is acceptable and he had an excessive number of incidents.

    If he had a damaged car he should have parked it. If he had a bad setup he should have parked it. If he didnít practice enough to learn the track he shouldnít have competed. If he was having a bad day he should have parked it. Full closure on race and protest penalties and disciplinary action on Tyler Alan:

    - DQ from Cordoba race results.
    - 1-Race Suspension from '74 Porsche IROC Series (R2 Goiania).
    - 2-Race Probation in 74 Porsche IROC Series (starting with R3).
    - ​2-Race Probation in Formula A Series (starting with R4).

    Note: Missed races will not count as probation period, driver has to be present and observed by stewards.
    Repeat offenses in probation period will lead into more disciplinary action from RRC.

    Chief Steward Jon Uyan's Comment:
    Tyler has been contacted twice during this review process to give him chance to explain his position, but I did not receive any reply. We take any disciplinary action against any member very seriously
    and we go to a lengthy review process where number of stewards involved are more than just 2 that is a minimum requirement for any penalty decision making. We had total of 6 stewards (reviewers) involved in this race and protest
    review. One of series admins also involved in providing information as per usual of the process. Our private forum is accessible by all chapter admins, ex-admins that are in important senior member position and the league president.
    Our deliberations on incidents or driver behavior and penalty decisions are done under the observations of this body of members. Review Cmte. is a closed group but still as transparent as it can be. I feel I had to explain this for drivers
    who may question the correctness of penalties.
    Last edited by Joe Miller; 02-20-2018 at 09:33 PM. Reason: edited for clarity, additional notes

  2. #2
    Jason Whited's Avatar
    Jason Whited is offline Senior Community Leader
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Soutwest Virginia, USA
    Posts
    1,451

    Default

    MNRL administrators are not race stewards.

    Please direct any comments and/or complaints to the Race Review Committee.
    This thread is closed to further comment. All penalty threads from hence forth will be closed to comment.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •